Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell says there was some “illuminating evidence” in Senate estimates regarding the AUKUS nuclear submarines project.

“Some illuminating evidence in Senate estimates this morning that indicated that the policy is a risky one,” Mr Clennell said.

“The Secretary of Defence Greg Moriarty and head of the nuclear sub project giving evidence that the first boat will not be in the water until 2039, that they are presently not attempting to lease some US and UK subs first, and that we will have to rely on the Collins class subs in the meantime.

“Defence Minister Peter Dutton told me last month for Sunday Agenda that the government was working on leasing subs first.”

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